If he felt diminished in any way it was intentional on her part. She wanted to tear him down and make him feel like less of a person so he continued to feel like he NEEDED her. She is a murderer and she deserves to rot in prison for what she did to him.
I must be missing something because all of the abusive clips I have seen of her physically assaulting him, is HER freaking out calling him the cheater/flirter. Which I find absolutely fascinating being that she just sat on a pod cast allowing a man to sexually degrade her and oggle over her body, but she doesn't like the way he spoke to another female. She is a manipulative, gaslighting narcissistic abuser. It may be hard to outwardly acknowledge because the narrative is that it's typically a man doing these things. But fact is fact. She is a disgusting example of a human being and a disgrace to women in general.
I agree about not kicking someone out bc you were upset and just decided they cannot live there, but what about those who do not contribute in any way financially to the home they share with you, and then become abusive (as in punching holes in walls, screaming in your face in front of your children causing them to cry to make sure mommy is okay, punching the bed right next to your face, or slamming doors and throwing items, hanging nuises in your shed threatening suicide so your children can see? I put up with all that and more and finally ended up calling the police, but yes there were a few times I said to get out but he always had his mom to get him a hotel and I would offer to pay for one for him as well. I am sure all of this goes without saying, but thought I would mention when you are being terrorized, it is not your job to put up with severe abuse just because that person lives there. They decide to abuse you and kids, so they need to be adult enough to find somewhere else to go. I am not mothering another adult that should be my equal and give me basic love and respect. Your example of getting mad over looking at someone else, then kicking out, that I understand. But abuse, no. It was hurting my children and I and I ended up having to call police by the end of it to get him to leave. And again, he did not pay for rent, and in fact actually stole some of my money at one point in the relationship. So just wanted to add that. Bc I was told he then went to play the victim telling all his friends his "side" of the story, that I was so terrible and kicked him out with no place to go. Absolutely untrue, and I guarantee he did not tell those same people how abusive he was to us. So it should not automatically be assumed that the person doing the kicking out is the bad one. With all that being said, I would never have stabbed or harmed him. Calling the police was an option luckily for me and he was safely removed. My children and I are happier, healthier, and safe.
This should not have happened to him and now she can live with it hopefully without parole like she so deserves because he definitely didn't deserve this and he stayed by her side, AGAIN HE DESERVED BETTER and I hope her parent's serve time as well
He was disgusting creep. Going around secretly recording girlfriend. Who does that. That is abuse. Gaslighting her. That is abuse. In many recordings She tells him to get away from. He doesn't leave and continues to irritating her. That is abuse. Sleeping outside around common area of her apartment building. Sneaking and stalking her. That is abuse. I don't have any sympathy what happened to that disgusting creep.
20:31 doesnât the bakers act being used insinuate that she was hospitalized after the stabbing for 3 days, or did i miss something. She wouldnt have her phone if she was in a psychiatric ward most likely, so the videos logically were prerecorded and pre scheduled, and she wouldnât have access to her account to cancel the video being released.
In the state of Florida if you are receiving mail you are a resident at that location. So Christian was a resident at that apartment. My husband had an girlfriend prior to us meeting and it took him 3 years for her to leave because she was receiving her mail at his house in St. Petersburg, FL. Thank goodness she finally met someone and finally left.
Good day! I do not trust this woman I have seen some videos and she doesn't sound balance at all! She looks like she has borderline personality traits, trust me I have been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and we have huge tantrums like she does! she murdered him! sorry if anyone does not agree with me!
The way an abusive partner can mentally break you down to the point of also becoming an abusive partner is incredible. Unless you have experienced a toxic, intense, co-dependent relationship you just canât understand. I feel sick watching the videos of them, knowing I was once pushed into being someone I never wanted to be and was made out to be a monster because thatâs what he wanted. I was unstable and overwhelmed and couldnât even explain the way I felt in those moments even though I can remember them in every inch of me. I donât know what happened here but both of them were victims and both were abusive. This is a tragic and all to familiar story.
With the release of the recordings that Christian was conducting in secret, Iâm convinced this girl is out of her mind bonkers. Nuts AND bolts. She would scream at him until she lost her voice. Itâs really hard to listen to. Also, she looks like absolute garbage now in prison. So that helps some.
@Stephanie Harlowe I am so sad to hear you were a victim of abuse. I hope you have found a way to use the experience to better and improve your here and now.
Personally? I'm sick and tired of them turning cases into some tedious exercise in point scoring. "*Inset person* was insert definition so they mean more than *insert group*" OR "There's not enough cases involving insert group OR "Well, insert person did it because" OR "Well, ^insert person^ was a sex worker so they had it coming".
NO! It is NOT A COMPETITION. People ARE NOT quotas! They are not fucking groups to be pushed for political reasons. THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS!
At the end of the day, when our skin, where we live, what we do and our thoughts and other personal details are REMOVED?
WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME small blue and green planet ARGUING, ABOUT BOLLOCKS instead of bringing people to JUSTICE. And getting victims JUSTICE.
My daughter calls me whenever her and her bf figbt. Its a comfort thing, i think. Half the time shes not even talking to me, its just them yelling but a few times i could hear her scream mom call the cop's. Its kinda like haven an extra person to help when you feel alone.
it was most definitely NOT self defense. even if he was the one that started it, at the time there was no threat to her. he was fine and she was swinging at him, not the other way around
Oh man, I just returned to this video a year later after reading the texts they released from Christian to Courtney. I remember thinking that the elevator video was more nuanced than people believed. After reading those texts, though? She seems like a monster.
Just gotta say that no, she shouldn't be treated as a respectable business woman. She's an onlyfans worker… If you put yourself out there like that, expect for men to treat you as such. You can't scream, 'I want to be respected and not objectified,' and then post nude pics. 𤣠Doesn't work like that. Sure men will look at you, f#@k you, but they will never respect you…ever.
As it would appear, even OF "Models" can be murderers … personally I wouldn't give her the steam off my shite let alone money to see her entitled ass, poor Christian, my thought go out to his family
I think she felt threatened enough in the moment that she killed him in self defense. Heâs a big boy. He could have easily taken her down and killed her if she didnât have a knife. If he had used violence against her, then she could have been put in a fight or flight mode. Itâs unfortunate. All around. No winners, here. But she could have left him and she would have. He needed her more than she needed him. She has no reason to kill him, other than self defense. She was clearly abused in an ongoing fashion. Both were, but that doesnât negate her abuse too. I would be afraid of a man that big, if I were in an argument with him. And I appreciate your take on the end, and how you laid out the rise in argument that keeps getting worse and worse. It was always gonna end with violence, these both were toxic people. But when youâre in the heat of the moment, people do wild things. Especially with alcohol in their system. This whole story is so sad.
Paralegal here and per law, if you have been staying somewhere for over 30 days and especially receive mail at the address -you are a tenant and the whoever the lease owner is has to legally evict you through the courts so Christian was a tenant the defense lawyerâs argument regarding this is moot. The police wouldâve said âitâs a civil issueâ in regards to him being there and would not have done nothing had she called the police with her alleged claim that he wouldnât leave.
watching this a year later right after f&f gets banned hits different đđđ please donât feel bad talking negative about them, they deserve it ~â¤ď¸âđŠš
I felt that all the people, men and women, in the radio broadcast, were cringeworthy. What a bunch of depravity on display from all sides. I am 71 and this is really sad to see for me. Men like this are deplorable and women should never put up with this.
I know for a fact⌠there are abusers that do hide from people and fake who they are in front of people. She was trying to get away from him. She was trying to close the elevator doors. There are different kinds of abuse and some men can emotionally beat a strong women down until they break. Saying that, I donât think any fight should end in either person being killed, unless your about to be killed. đ˘ itâs sad because it seems to me the abuse was with both of them. He seems to have hid it better but not completelyâŚ
@adamjonkie5601
7:38 this had my rolling!!!!!!đđđđđđđ
@indigocolor
Love you Stephanie! đđ You are the best!
@NyseHaywood
If he felt diminished in any way it was intentional on her part. She wanted to tear him down and make him feel like less of a person so he continued to feel like he NEEDED her. She is a murderer and she deserves to rot in prison for what she did to him.
@NyseHaywood
I must be missing something because all of the abusive clips I have seen of her physically assaulting him, is HER freaking out calling him the cheater/flirter. Which I find absolutely fascinating being that she just sat on a pod cast allowing a man to sexually degrade her and oggle over her body, but she doesn't like the way he spoke to another female. She is a manipulative, gaslighting narcissistic abuser. It may be hard to outwardly acknowledge because the narrative is that it's typically a man doing these things. But fact is fact. She is a disgusting example of a human being and a disgrace to women in general.
@_CharlieEnnui_
I agree about not kicking someone out bc you were upset and just decided they cannot live there, but what about those who do not contribute in any way financially to the home they share with you, and then become abusive (as in punching holes in walls, screaming in your face in front of your children causing them to cry to make sure mommy is okay, punching the bed right next to your face, or slamming doors and throwing items, hanging nuises in your shed threatening suicide so your children can see? I put up with all that and more and finally ended up calling the police, but yes there were a few times I said to get out but he always had his mom to get him a hotel and I would offer to pay for one for him as well. I am sure all of this goes without saying, but thought I would mention when you are being terrorized, it is not your job to put up with severe abuse just because that person lives there. They decide to abuse you and kids, so they need to be adult enough to find somewhere else to go. I am not mothering another adult that should be my equal and give me basic love and respect. Your example of getting mad over looking at someone else, then kicking out, that I understand. But abuse, no. It was hurting my children and I and I ended up having to call police by the end of it to get him to leave. And again, he did not pay for rent, and in fact actually stole some of my money at one point in the relationship. So just wanted to add that. Bc I was told he then went to play the victim telling all his friends his "side" of the story, that I was so terrible and kicked him out with no place to go. Absolutely untrue, and I guarantee he did not tell those same people how abusive he was to us. So it should not automatically be assumed that the person doing the kicking out is the bad one. With all that being said, I would never have stabbed or harmed him. Calling the police was an option luckily for me and he was safely removed. My children and I are happier, healthier, and safe.
@Rainbowofthefallen
Just commenting for the algorithm đ¤
@dawngrimes7361
This should not have happened to him and now she can live with it hopefully without parole like she so deserves because he definitely didn't deserve this and he stayed by her side, AGAIN HE DESERVED BETTER and I hope her parent's serve time as well
@user-qs2br2jl4x
He was disgusting creep. Going around secretly recording girlfriend. Who does that. That is abuse. Gaslighting her. That is abuse. In many recordings She tells him to get away from. He doesn't leave and continues to irritating her. That is abuse. Sleeping outside around common area of her apartment building. Sneaking and stalking her. That is abuse. I don't have any sympathy what happened to that disgusting creep.
@jbbruti7354
20:31 doesnât the bakers act being used insinuate that she was hospitalized after the stabbing for 3 days, or did i miss something. She wouldnt have her phone if she was in a psychiatric ward most likely, so the videos logically were prerecorded and pre scheduled, and she wouldnât have access to her account to cancel the video being released.
@andreaguzman8778
In the state of Florida if you are receiving mail you are a resident at that location. So Christian was a resident at that apartment. My husband had an girlfriend prior to us meeting and it took him 3 years for her to leave because she was receiving her mail at his house in St. Petersburg, FL. Thank goodness she finally met someone and finally left.
@cynthiabarrett8360
I don't know about different states but in CT if the other person's mail goes to the address they would have to be evicted
@jocelynastheart2732
Good day! I do not trust this woman I have seen some videos and she doesn't sound balance at all! She looks like she has borderline personality traits, trust me I have been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and we have huge tantrums like she does! she murdered him! sorry if anyone does not agree with me!
@kaylareilly9476
The way an abusive partner can mentally break you down to the point of also becoming an abusive partner is incredible. Unless you have experienced a toxic, intense, co-dependent relationship you just canât understand. I feel sick watching the videos of them, knowing I was once pushed into being someone I never wanted to be and was made out to be a monster because thatâs what he wanted. I was unstable and overwhelmed and couldnât even explain the way I felt in those moments even though I can remember them in every inch of me. I donât know what happened here but both of them were victims and both were abusive. This is a tragic and all to familiar story.
@ashleyrichards5194
I don't think this dude was a woman beater.
@marlaynacaffreyhogeweide5705
Hugs lady
@niaselah3348
Not surprised she needed those substances with that "work"
@MissThompson87
With the release of the recordings that Christian was conducting in secret, Iâm convinced this girl is out of her mind bonkers. Nuts AND bolts. She would scream at him until she lost her voice. Itâs really hard to listen to.
Also, she looks like absolute garbage now in prison. So that helps some.
@davidaston5773
@Stephanie Harlowe I am so sad to hear you were a victim of abuse. I hope you have found a way to use the experience to better and improve your here and now.
Personally? I'm sick and tired of them turning cases into some tedious exercise in point scoring.
"*Inset person* was insert definition so they mean more than *insert group*" OR
"There's not enough cases involving insert group OR "Well, insert person did it because" OR
"Well, ^insert person^ was a sex worker so they had it coming".
NO! It is NOT A COMPETITION. People ARE NOT quotas! They are not fucking groups to be pushed for political reasons. THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS!
At the end of the day, when our skin, where we live, what we do and our thoughts and other personal details are REMOVED?
WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME small blue and green planet ARGUING, ABOUT BOLLOCKS instead of bringing people to JUSTICE. And getting victims JUSTICE.
That SHOULD and MUST BE our ONLY focus.
David
@naominitzsche4872
My daughter calls me whenever her and her bf figbt. Its a comfort thing, i think. Half the time shes not even talking to me, its just them yelling but a few times i could hear her scream mom call the cop's. Its kinda like haven an extra person to help when you feel alone.
@jenniferkelly7241
it was most definitely NOT self defense. even if he was the one that started it, at the time there was no threat to her. he was fine and she was swinging at him, not the other way around
@jenniferkelly7241
and, i know this is not remotely the same but My mother was full hair and makeup when she was at home with the flu, and she's not famous
@jenniferkelly7241
Hell, if i got Baker Acted for 72 hours, you can bet your ass i would need A FEW DRINKS.
@clairepettie
Oh man, I just returned to this video a year later after reading the texts they released from Christian to Courtney. I remember thinking that the elevator video was more nuanced than people believed. After reading those texts, though? She seems like a monster.
@hopeless_wanderer502
Just gotta say that no, she shouldn't be treated as a respectable business woman.
She's an onlyfans worker…
If you put yourself out there like that, expect for men to treat you as such.
You can't scream, 'I want to be respected and not objectified,' and then post nude pics. đ¤Ł
Doesn't work like that.
Sure men will look at you, f#@k you, but they will never respect you…ever.
@davidrivett3088
As it would appear, even OF "Models" can be murderers … personally I wouldn't give her the steam off my shite let alone money to see her entitled ass, poor Christian, my thought go out to his family
@queenieevergreen
I think she felt threatened enough in the moment that she killed him in self defense. Heâs a big boy. He could have easily taken her down and killed her if she didnât have a knife. If he had used violence against her, then she could have been put in a fight or flight mode. Itâs unfortunate. All around. No winners, here. But she could have left him and she would have. He needed her more than she needed him. She has no reason to kill him, other than self defense. She was clearly abused in an ongoing fashion. Both were, but that doesnât negate her abuse too. I would be afraid of a man that big, if I were in an argument with him. And I appreciate your take on the end, and how you laid out the rise in argument that keeps getting worse and worse. It was always gonna end with violence, these both were toxic people. But when youâre in the heat of the moment, people do wild things. Especially with alcohol in their system. This whole story is so sad.
@teerichardson2127
Paralegal here and per law, if you have been staying somewhere for over 30 days and especially receive mail at the address -you are a tenant and the whoever the lease owner is has to legally evict you through the courts so Christian was a tenant the defense lawyerâs argument regarding this is moot. The police wouldâve said âitâs a civil issueâ in regards to him being there and would not have done nothing had she called the police with her alleged claim that he wouldnât leave.
@brattybrows
watching this a year later right after f&f gets banned hits different đđđ please donât feel bad talking negative about them, they deserve it ~â¤ď¸âđŠš
@irenestrmnss4496
YES, LEAVE , GET OUT, NO NEED TO KILL, LEAVE , GET HELP.
LEAVE THE RELATIONSHIP TOO.
@MrCurtishinkle
I felt that all the people, men and women, in the radio broadcast, were cringeworthy. What a bunch of depravity on display from all sides. I am 71 and this is really sad to see for me. Men like this are deplorable and women should never put up with this.
@daisyrain35
I know for a fact⌠there are abusers that do hide from people and fake who they are in front of people. She was trying to get away from him. She was trying to close the elevator doors. There are different kinds of abuse and some men can emotionally beat a strong women down until they break. Saying that, I donât think any
fight should end in either person being killed, unless your about to be killed. đ˘ itâs sad because it seems to me the abuse was with both of them. He seems to have hid it better but not completelyâŚ