22 March
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Coffee And Crime Time: Filicide
- tcweekly
- coffee and crime time, crime daily, Stephanie harlowe, true crime
- 47 Comments
Investigating the ghastly crime of filicide in the early hours of the morning over a steaming cup of coffee. Delving deep into the twisted motives and chilling details of a parent’s decision to murder their own child. As we unravel the evidence, we uncover the dark truths behind this heinous act of family violence.
@user-qk5tv4zw1r
Wow, Stephanie, what a power episode!!! So sad! I wish there was more we could do ❤ .
@marlaynacaffreyhogeweide5705
Did you read the other books after "a child called 'it'"
@candalynruffa3969
Sherry the woman who drown her 2 boys in a drainage ditch happened in my town, truly horrific. She should of never been near the boys
@lilmissjoodypoody
Look for behaviours, not just bruises. As someone who was physically, psychologically and sexually abused for over a decade since birth, I can tell you that you would never be able to detect signs of abuse if you were looking for bruises on me. …except the one time when I was 10yo and my mother hit me over the head with a high heel shoe and left a massive purple bump on my forehead for accidentally sleeping in on a school day coz I didn’t hear my alarm go off, but my teacher just accepted my explanation that I walked into a door…
Kids who have been abused are not happy carefree kids who are thriving. Kids that experience trauma are kids who are desperate to please others especially adults, kids who are unable to regulate their emotions so will lash out at others and may even hurt others, kids who are withdrawn and trying to keep their head down, smart kids whose grades take a nose dive. The trauma may not be from abuse, but speaking to the kid and/or their guardian should set your spidey senses tingling.
@michelleprudham1416
I have to have a rest from it .most times I cry and I try to have a break and conjure cute pies or babie bause mcaus
@michelleprudham1416
U should never see your children as your property or an extension of you they are they're own little people you can guide them but you don't own them .When will people get this .They aren't our property to mistreat or kill or hurt EVER
@tammarrafoote5917
These people need to have to be court ordered to get fixed! So they cannot reproduce… First offense!!!
@shellyankers4857
You NEED to cover terrasa knorr
Theresa Jimmie KNORR Cross Classification: MurdererCharacteristics: Parricide – TortureNumber of victims: 2 +Date of murders: July 16, 1984 / June 21, 1985Date of arrest: November 10, 1993Date of birth: March 12, 1946Victims profile: Suesan Marlene Knorr, 17 (her daughter) / Sheila Gail Sanders, 20 (her daughter)Method of murder: Dousing with gasoline and setting afire / Dehydration and starvationLocation: Placer County/Sacramento County, California, USAStatus: Plead guilty on October 17, 1995. Sentenced to two consecutive life terms
@matthewwilson1010
White ‘n two. Extra milk. Good for memory I read
@scottcharney1091
And then there was Elisa Izquierdo…
@clarewhite3004
Mandated reporting… I'm a mandated reporter. I used to work in daycares, and now I'm a healthcare provider. I had to report possible abuse once, and it wasn't easy.
A kid in my class was about to be adopted by his foster parents, along with his brother. I knew he loved his foster parents and I believe they loved him, but when I heard a third-hand account of the foster father hitting the child in the face, I had to report it. Corporal punishment by foster parents is illegal in my state. I knew the foster parents were super stressed out and frustrated with the child's behavior issues. He had a lot of trauma from his birth family and it came out in some incredibly challenging behaviors. I knew how frustrating it was because I was dealing with them too. I could see how these frustrated parents might cross the line and hit him. While that might not seem like a big deal in some families, when you're caring for a child with a history of abuse, it's a big hairy deal. This all happened the day before the formal adoption hearing. My boss told me that another parent had told her that they'd seen the foster father hit the foster child. I said, oh my gosh, we have to report that, don't we? My boss told me not to do it, they loved the kid, it would be fine. I knew that by law, I had to report it. I did. My boss was furious. The kids were removed that night. My boss made a point to describe the sad scene in detail while I was in the room. I didn't see the kids again. I thought I'd never know if I'd done the right thing, but a few years later, I ran into the child's therapist at a conference. We'd met several times when she came to the daycare for his therapy sessions. She told me that the kids had been in a bad situation with their original foster family. Their escalating behavior issues had begun to improve after being removed from the abusive home. They were thriving in their new home. When I learned that I'd done the right thing, I went outside to my car and bawled like a baby. I can't downplay the trauma that they must have experienced when they lost their first foster family. I know they loved each other. But those foster parents were not fit to care for traumatized children. They were losing their tempers and retraumatizing them on a daily basis.
I'm normally of the mindset that what's legal is less important than what's right, and I don't believe that serious ethical decisions should boil down to the law. But I'm grateful for mandated reporting laws. It helped me choose to err on the side of caution, and it protected me from workplace retribution. If it was a matter of benign neglect, just a parent struggling to meet their child's basic needs, then it might be more appropriate to go to the parent and offer help. But for abuse, nope, I'm always always always going to make that phone call.
@sandramarkley7966
No Stephanie you're wrong I have called and called about my grandchildren and they don't say or do nothing because they had no marks on them they didn't pay attention to the fact that they were terrified I know cuz I've been there and it's not fun knowing that they're not going to do anything knowing my daughter Stephanie has told them children don't you say a word she came over to the other side of the trailer that day they came and told Shiloh do you feel safe with Mommy and and Shiloh said no straight up no and she looked at him she got right in his face do you feel safe with Chris and Mommy he said no and she looked at him they're going to take you away from mommy and he said Bobby well when they came over and talk to me I didn't know they had asked them if they felt safe being around me and they said oh yeah we love Grandma I had to leave I had to turn my you know and I laid there in that van sleeping in my van for a year-and-a-half waiting for her to come to her senses but she's got none that that's hard for a mother to say because she was raised with everything he had everything a child could want and how she could treat her children the way she does I don't know Solis social workers they need to get another way of working and making a living because they're no good at and they do had the power don't want to too much paperwork put into a job you decided you wanted and now you can't handle it well maybe it's time to get out of the business I have no sympathy for social worker I'm sorry we'll know I'm not sorry they are
@sandramarkley7966
Most definitely understand what you're saying but you got to understand they took that job knowing how tough it was going to be just like I say with the cops they knew when they were going to get that job what the entailed and what could happen if they was at mentally unstable then they shouldn't be in you have to be strong and and stand up for them children that's what you were there for but that's not what you're saying you're saying poor pitiful social workers know you're wrong Stephanie I've dealt with them and no they they let a lot of things go things that they see right in front of their face they overlooked because they want to the parents give him some kind of an excuse why that marks on them and no good with it they don't try to investigate because they know what they're supposed to do if they can't do the job then they don't need to be in the business they need to find another place of work the ones I feel sorry for is the children
@sandramarkley7966
Well Stephanie I love you to pieces I listen to you all the time but what about the children that have spoken up and they still CPS did nothing to help them there have been cases when children have told but they let him go back but system is more than broken they're just going for a paycheck and that is that is just just gross I don't know what to say I'm without words it happened so much I have two little grandsons now I'm worried to death about because my daughter has lost three children already older for that has been o adults and I have not seen them I watched him grow up on Facebook that's not being with them but the two in Florida I worry about tremendously CPS down there really don't do their job I can promise you that it's been a long time since I've talked to my grandbabies or even seen them and I'm worried about calling CPS because they don't they just don't care they just do not care and I don't know what to do you'll probably never read this but I hope someone elseyoungest one is Shiloh Whittington and he's 10 but anyway what am I supposed to do I cry and I hurt and I worry all the time I just want back with me or at least around me where I can see him and make sure they're being treated right you don't understand my daughter can be pretty pretty bad
@gregnield2075
They made us read the child called it in either middle school or highschool needless to say I def don't think people that young should be forced to read that in school
@tracih.8924
Your children are cuties ❤
@nataliefish3490
these people make me wanna throw up wtf is wrong with people. how could u do that to your baby ?
@vickieyounis4681
If these parents would put their cell phones with their baby,they would never forget them in the car.
@robellins3906
It’s time that a child’s life needs to start to be worth something because children are being killed abused sold every day the punishment doesn’t reflect on the seriousness of the crime.there needs to be a very harsh deterrent.if you kill or Torture a child baby if you abuse a child film the child then the punishment needs to be death the terrible pain and suffering that those poor children are put through is just unbearable to think of .the punishment hasn’t been harsh or long enough weather they are put to death or prison for life that’s what it should mean life don’t let any person out that has harmed children at all not to do it again they don’t deserve to live a happy life when they took the life of baby’s children a life for a life Period and the social worker social services if they neglect and ignore what they are being told and the children end up dead then they should be held responsible they need to do there job properly because they never get punished prosecuted for allowing the children to be harmed thinks need to change now
@kookycat9663
Watching this in 2022 & this issue is just getting worse! Seems like every day there's another news report for another case… 😢
@loulabelle5301
One thing i think is the pressure to have kids, I'm 42 and chose early on that I didn't want kids. I've come under sooooo much pressure from society in general and family to change my mind. 'dont you think that's selfish, who will look after you when you're old, but your partner will want kids?' – a less strong person may just have kids for expectations. And that's a terrible reason IMO x
@scarlettg6136
I try to be aware of cases involving children. But, I just couldn't finish this video. I was overwhelmed. I started out studying social welfare but couldn't complete my field work. My heart was broken. I went back to college in education where I felt that I was more effective. I did more on a daily basis by giving my students 7 hours a day of love and support. I couldn't go home with them, but I gave my babies a safety zone. I watched and listened for indications of need for intervention. Sometimes, there are no indications.
Those close to children should all be aware and responsible.
@nicoleweiler1105
What's up with the sponsor for this video? 🤔
@mariereed8534
Yes. You can only handle so much stress. Everyone needs a break from murder/mayhem.
@SuperJmclark
Regarding the first example of a mother who shot her adult children – if it seems impossible that she would have done this – perhaps she didn't. Maybe it was a triple murder successfully disguised.
@joannmangieri4120
ALSO I WILL NEVER FORGET SUSAN SMITH AND THEM BEAUTIFUL 2 BOYS!!!
@victoriawyatt8799
I am a mom to 5 daughters my youngest are twins. I’ve been completely exhausted, along with that schedule changes. Never once ever forgot any of my children and I’ve been a mom since the age of 16. I totally agree we need to look at these cases more.
@christinemarshall6593
I met David Pelzer (a Child called It)at a domestic violence conference. His presentation was compelling and he was inspiring. I had read the book years ago. Even after meeting him I could not read it again…
@chantalc4575
I love watching you Stephanie but I simply cannot watch this one. I commend you for being able to talk about this and bring awareness to it
@terryvannoy5819
It was this book that has gotten me through some really hard time just knowing someone else has had it worse and I keep pushing Telling myself anything is possible foster care really does suck
@wilmeotto5954
I remember being abused as a child and my peers would bully me when I once told someone, so I just left it until I was a bit older and I told my teacher and the first thing she did was call in my abuser to talk to them about it. It was absolutely terrifying getting in the car that day and being told my teacher called them.
@jessidurmis
The book you had to read in college, “A Child Called It”, I ended up reading when I was in 6th grade, because of a friend who read it. I can still remember all about it…I was introduced to the evil ways of humans early in life through books like this, I believe it could be one of the reasons for my immense amount of empathy I have towards everyone.
@kyliehughes7713
You should read about all the child deaths/murders in little old New Zealand, shocking
@upaige911
@27:50 I would really enjoy this video if it included ANY video or photos. I appreciate your monologue, but it would present much more depth with some supporting media.
@upaige911
@26:03 i’m sorry but the several minutes preceding and following this time stamp really don’t make sense. You are implying that parents “get off “when they let their children die in a hot car!? LOL that is not the case. They are still prosecuted. MOST of the time. JS. Maybe manslaughter instead of capital murder but they’re still charged. It’s extremely rare for them to “let it slide“. SMH
@ingrediece480
Honestly, the police system is absolutely disgraceful, especially when it comes to cases of child abuse. My father nearly smothered me to death in a hot car for his own entertainment, and even admitted to having plans of killing me, I have video and audio evidence of him being violent, and he straight up said yes to all the accusations my doctors brought up with him, he was proud of what he did, and he says that he found all of it entertaining. Several doctors reported him to the police and CPS, their response? "The subject is not in danger", because I was 16 and deemed old enough to defend against someone who is twice my weight. So I have PTSD and UDD (DID/OSDD symptoms but not enough to make a definite diagnosis yet).
Every one of my classmates who had been abused severely had called the police and CPS, and none of them got the help they needed. Friend 1 has an eating disorder because her mom locked her in a room for 3 days without food and only meager amounts of water.
Friend 2 was r/ped and beaten by his dad until he was rushed to the ER with severe head trauma, I believe his pets were also killed as punishment.
Friend 3 was regularly r/ped and beaten by her brother, not only did he not face charges, but her parents made him show up at her 18th birthday party despite her protests.
These cases are so common it's disgusting.
@Salty-cracker68
You created quite a commercial for big fish casino. I hope they paid you a lot
@mirandadelaney6005
Ok I know I’m late to the Stephanie Harlowe party, but I’m here now! Lol I think you are fantastic and I enjoy your content. I wanted to add a little to your postpartum depression comment if that’s ok. I’m pretty sure I had postpartum depression after my youngest was born so I told the OB doctor about it. -which is super hard for me to do and admit! While I am sobbing in the doctors appointment he says I’ll be fine and brushed my feelings aside. I was too sad, tired, and mentally exhausted to even try and find other options but I did. I called my primary doctor and she too brushed my thoughts and feelings away like they were nothing and said I would be fine. This actually made my depression worse! I felt like no one believed me, maybe that I was crazy. I gave up. I was miserable for such a long time. The lack of help from people who are supposed to help you in that type of situation is alarming because I know I’m not the only one. Thankfully I didn’t want or feel the need to hurt my child! I would just cry for hours every day. But that is not a way to live. This was 6years ago now and I have since gotten help and I am doing better but not everyone is that lucky or determined. I think doctors need to take their patients more seriously when it comes to postpartum. Thank you again for amazing content! I am so glad I found your page!
@melissamarie4358
I LOVED THAT TRILOGY!!!! A child called it, the lost boy, a man named Dave.
@carrieevans2760
How does a Parent forget they have kids in the car don’t you have to put him in the car seat don’t you have to take him out of the car seat so how do you forget that your kids in the car I don’t understand that and I never will to me that’s murder you don’t forget your kids
@invaderjill8054
Omg your kids are adorable. I realize they are 2 years older now, but this is the first time I’m seeing this video so, I couldn’t resist commenting. 🙂
@lisacrisp3343
Ok just watched more of this video and I wanted to thank you for your comments about social workers. As I said in my last post, I have a BSW and we always get blamed… I'm not saying that there aren't bad social workers or some that aren't doing what they should.. but there are bad people in every profession. And yes, we should be provided with mental health care consistently for the things we see and do. For instance, removing a child, especially a young child, from a parent is traumatizing for EVERYONE involved. Young children dont often understand why you are taking them and lets be honest here… even if the child is being neglected or abused by their parent, they still love them.
@lisacrisp3343
I got my degree in social work and I also had to read A Child Called It… I actually used it in another class for a report. Very awful book.
@rachaellong5511
as a mother of 3 (I too had my oldest when I was a teenager), I can't fathom "forgetting" a child in a car or anywhere for that matter..I may forget an appointment, taking something out for dinner or something to that extent but NEVER forgetting my child..sounds like excuses to me🙄
@donnamathoslah8183
I see stories nearly everyday about parents killing their children, and torturing their children to death. It is an alarming epidemic that often has it’s roots in drug abuse, and/or abuse delivered to the child from a parent’s partner who is not the biological parent.
@mouse9665
Sad as is sounds things are gonna get a whole lotta worse. The innocent need to be protected they are the ones under major attack!
@Abutado
Umm dad leaving kids in the car, he's a SOCIAL WORKER in a healthcare setting… He knows better. Never have I once forgotten my kids in my car.